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Who: Sam Winchester & you!
Where: Panorama
When: June
What: Catch-all: TDM migration & other closed threads.

Warnings: None atm, will update along the way.

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[ Jack settles into the car and he likes it. It's not the Impala, but he likes the variety and Sam looks right behind the wheel. He rarely gets to sit in the passenger seat unless they're on a mission so it's nice to just be up front for no reason other than the two of them going to dinner. He also doesn't often get to eat dinner with just him and Sam! It doesn't mean that he's glad Dean isn't here, he's sad about that, but Jack as per usual does find some positives in his situation. Sam's here so he can lean on him.

He frowns and looks over at Sam, puzzled. ]

Sam, Lucifer and Michael are dead. I killed Michael myself. I'm supposed to kill Chuck now, remember?

[ It cost them all dearly that he burned out his soul in the process, but Jack does not regret killing Michael. No, he hated the man, more than his father, more than Chuck. The others are enemies but Michael was Jack's personal enemy. He spent all that time in the other universe trying to get him and then finally took him down, but only at the loss of others first. He would do it again, Michael had to die. ]

Oh. Wait.

[ It sweeps into him all at once and he didn't expect this to happen again, but here it is. At least Sam does know him. Jack knows how much worse this could be. He gives one of his very sad faces. ]

Castiel is here too, I should have said that sooner, but Sam ... he's from before I was born. I guess whatever is taking us, it's out of time.

[ The look he shoots him is desperate, young. ]

But you do know me, right? I'm your adopted son?

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( Sam is grateful that he hasn't started driving yet, because all of a sudden, a lot is coming at him at once. He turns to Jack, only growing more confused the longer he talks, the information he receives not correlating to what Sam already knows, and he can't do anything for a moment but absorb the information he's being given. )

You killed Michael - wait, Lucifer's dead? Kill Chuck? -- ( Shock rocks through him, almost physically doubling him over - the joy of Lucifer's dead, he's finally dead and the horror of Jack had to kill someone, Jack killed Michael, Jack says we're trying to kill God instantly at war within him. The wrestling of emotions in his chest, pushing past the shock and disbelief, almost keeps him from hearing what Jack says next.

He turns to the kid, eyes wide, and he's surprised to see such blatant desperation on his face. Castiel is here too -- that's important, and it's another lifeline thrown his way, just before he's sent overboard again with it's out of time. Sam squeezes his eyes shut, forcing himself to break down the avalanche of information into sizable pieces. ) Wait - okay, give me a second...

( Sam forces himself to take a breath, then opens his eyes again. ) You're saying that... you're from a future point in our timeline? And that Castiel is from...the past? ( This, somehow, seems more manageable to parse versus the "killing God" topic. ) I guess we've... we've traveled in time before, but not between universes and time. Why would anyone drag us here at such different points...

( But Jack is looking at him like a lost kid desperate for reassurance, asking if Sam knows him, and the instinct to soothe is immediate. He grabs Jack's shoulder gently, letting his own astonishment recede as he focuses on grounding Jack - even as the word 'son' rings like a bell in Sam's mind. They hadn't... Sam would never assume... but that had to be a conversation for a different time. )

Of course, I know you. You're Jack. Our nephilim kid who eats too much nougat, right? ( Sam gives him a teasing grin he hopes he reassuring enough, patting Jack's bony shoulder. )

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[ Jack goes quiet when Sam asks to get a second to process that, which is understandable. His mistake was putting way too much information on Castiel all at once, but at the time Jack didn't know what else to do. He was needy for his father's attention and he wanted to convince him of their relationship, but instead he feels like he may have only driven him away. ]

Yes. I'm from the future. I killed Michael maybe a year ago. Lucifer died before that. Chuck brought him back briefly later, but he was killed very quickly again, so he's gone.

[ So quickly. Probably hours after he was resurrected. Jack feels nothing about that topic, his father was dead to him after the first time. In fact, Jack hated the very idea of ever seeing Lucifer again, which is why he reacted so violently toward Nick. He barely was able to react to his father showing up toward the end before Michael killed him. Now Jack has absorbed all of his power, but he can talk about that later as a concern. Two archangel Graces inside of him is a lot to handle.

This means that he's never been soulless to Sam though. And it means ... Mary is still alive to him. That instantly puts Jack in an inwardly spiral of panic. He can't talk about that now. Not when Sam is here and cares about him. He can't lose another parent. That will be a problem for future Jack, as people sometimes say. ]

Castiel says he is from when you were all fighting Amara and he let Lucifer possess his body.

[ He looks deeply relieved at Sam's reassurance but also anxious at the same time, all of his emotions laid out there openly on his honest face. He looks hopeful as he shoots a look toward Sam. ]

Yes. I'm so glad. If both you and Castiel didn't know me, I don't know what I'd do.

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( Now even more information gets hurled Sam's way, but he really tries to not get overwhelmed, if only for Jack's sake. Jack is from the future, Cas is from the past - God, it really is a mess. )

Okay, one thing at a time. ( He gives Jack's shoulder another light squeeze as he rearranges the pieces in his mind. ) So... okay. Michael and Lucifer are off the board. The world-ending threat is from Chuck this time. ( That isn't... great, considering he's God, but if that's happening back in Jack's timeline, at least this pocket-dimention...thing they're stuck in can give them time to strategize. ) Meanwhile, Cas is from right when he let Lucifer in...

( Sam puts his head in his hands and allows himself one second of frustration. Then, he takes a breath. If this is overwhelming for Sam, he can't imagine how Jack must have felt on his own, without even Cas to guide him. ) I'm sorry, Jack. That must have been hard, Castiel not knowing who you are. That was... a rough time for Castiel, too.

( He should let laying dogs lie, but Sam has to tentatively ask, for his own peace of mind if nothing else. ) And Lucifer... he's really dead? ( Then, carefully, remembering the disappointment that had radiated from Jack in the timeline he'd left behind, learning that Sam had left Lucifer behind in the Apocalypse world: ) How do you feel about that?

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Yes, Chuck got angry and decided to end all his worlds so he can restart and make new ones. We had to stop him. Or, we were trying to. Now I don't know. I was kind of the key to defeating him, and I'm here.

[ They couldn't do anything without Jack, he was the only chance they had against his grandfather. It's left him feeling very guilty and helpless about being here, that he's left his remaining family lost and alone behind him. But if Sam is here, and it can be out of time like this, it means they aren't lost. He might be able to go back to when he was and finish it like they needed. If they're in a pocket dimension until then, it's not over.

Jack watches him anxiously as he reacts with frustration, but he does understand. He's feeling particularly needy at the moment for Sam's attention and he can't take his eyes off him, as if even blinking could mean he'd be gone. Castiel not knowing him has been a disaster. ]

He's unwell, Sam. I can't help him. I just make things worse.

[ That's how Jack feels most of the time but especially in this situation with Castiel. ]

If you could reassure him that I'm not lying, I would appreciate that.

[ Castiel did allow him to stay around him but it was clear he didn't believe anything that Jack was saying, or at least not a lot of it. It was a lot to take in. Jack intellectually understands that, but he's a child desperate for his parents, and one of them doesn't believe him.

His eyebrows furrow at Sam. It occurs to him that Sam is from before Lucifer's death which means that Jack was at a point where he was trying to open up to Lucifer. He feels stupid about that now. Lucifer was so good at manipulating him. ]

I'm glad. He hurt my family, he betrayed me. You were right from the start, he's evil. I would kill him myself if I saw him again.