closed.

[hellunbounded]

Who: Sam Winchester & you!
Where: Panorama
When: June
What: Catch-all: TDM migration & other closed threads.

Warnings: None atm, will update along the way.

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[godjr]

[ Jack goes quiet when Sam asks to get a second to process that, which is understandable. His mistake was putting way too much information on Castiel all at once, but at the time Jack didn't know what else to do. He was needy for his father's attention and he wanted to convince him of their relationship, but instead he feels like he may have only driven him away. ]

Yes. I'm from the future. I killed Michael maybe a year ago. Lucifer died before that. Chuck brought him back briefly later, but he was killed very quickly again, so he's gone.

[ So quickly. Probably hours after he was resurrected. Jack feels nothing about that topic, his father was dead to him after the first time. In fact, Jack hated the very idea of ever seeing Lucifer again, which is why he reacted so violently toward Nick. He barely was able to react to his father showing up toward the end before Michael killed him. Now Jack has absorbed all of his power, but he can talk about that later as a concern. Two archangel Graces inside of him is a lot to handle.

This means that he's never been soulless to Sam though. And it means ... Mary is still alive to him. That instantly puts Jack in an inwardly spiral of panic. He can't talk about that now. Not when Sam is here and cares about him. He can't lose another parent. That will be a problem for future Jack, as people sometimes say. ]

Castiel says he is from when you were all fighting Amara and he let Lucifer possess his body.

[ He looks deeply relieved at Sam's reassurance but also anxious at the same time, all of his emotions laid out there openly on his honest face. He looks hopeful as he shoots a look toward Sam. ]

Yes. I'm so glad. If both you and Castiel didn't know me, I don't know what I'd do.

[hellunbounded]

( Now even more information gets hurled Sam's way, but he really tries to not get overwhelmed, if only for Jack's sake. Jack is from the future, Cas is from the past - God, it really is a mess. )

Okay, one thing at a time. ( He gives Jack's shoulder another light squeeze as he rearranges the pieces in his mind. ) So... okay. Michael and Lucifer are off the board. The world-ending threat is from Chuck this time. ( That isn't... great, considering he's God, but if that's happening back in Jack's timeline, at least this pocket-dimention...thing they're stuck in can give them time to strategize. ) Meanwhile, Cas is from right when he let Lucifer in...

( Sam puts his head in his hands and allows himself one second of frustration. Then, he takes a breath. If this is overwhelming for Sam, he can't imagine how Jack must have felt on his own, without even Cas to guide him. ) I'm sorry, Jack. That must have been hard, Castiel not knowing who you are. That was... a rough time for Castiel, too.

( He should let laying dogs lie, but Sam has to tentatively ask, for his own peace of mind if nothing else. ) And Lucifer... he's really dead? ( Then, carefully, remembering the disappointment that had radiated from Jack in the timeline he'd left behind, learning that Sam had left Lucifer behind in the Apocalypse world: ) How do you feel about that?

[godjr]

Yes, Chuck got angry and decided to end all his worlds so he can restart and make new ones. We had to stop him. Or, we were trying to. Now I don't know. I was kind of the key to defeating him, and I'm here.

[ They couldn't do anything without Jack, he was the only chance they had against his grandfather. It's left him feeling very guilty and helpless about being here, that he's left his remaining family lost and alone behind him. But if Sam is here, and it can be out of time like this, it means they aren't lost. He might be able to go back to when he was and finish it like they needed. If they're in a pocket dimension until then, it's not over.

Jack watches him anxiously as he reacts with frustration, but he does understand. He's feeling particularly needy at the moment for Sam's attention and he can't take his eyes off him, as if even blinking could mean he'd be gone. Castiel not knowing him has been a disaster. ]

He's unwell, Sam. I can't help him. I just make things worse.

[ That's how Jack feels most of the time but especially in this situation with Castiel. ]

If you could reassure him that I'm not lying, I would appreciate that.

[ Castiel did allow him to stay around him but it was clear he didn't believe anything that Jack was saying, or at least not a lot of it. It was a lot to take in. Jack intellectually understands that, but he's a child desperate for his parents, and one of them doesn't believe him.

His eyebrows furrow at Sam. It occurs to him that Sam is from before Lucifer's death which means that Jack was at a point where he was trying to open up to Lucifer. He feels stupid about that now. Lucifer was so good at manipulating him. ]

I'm glad. He hurt my family, he betrayed me. You were right from the start, he's evil. I would kill him myself if I saw him again.